Did you hear about bush vetoing child health insurance plan? what do you think?
http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/rss/topstories/*http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071003/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_children_s_health does he not realize he is hurting millions of low-income kids in America? tell me your thoughts. do you think he is doing the right thing?
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No child left behind my azz
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Duh! everyone has and I am happy he vetoed this over-priced crap of a bill.
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It's good... that Bill was full of crap. It needs to be slimmed down to the point where it covers kids... not 25 year olds.
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He's a murderer, isn't the last 7 years of presidency proof enough? Murdering thousands of Iraqi babies do you think he really cares about the babies of poor people in this country?
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It was a bad bill and need vetoing. It included people earning 85,000, and Children age 25. Last time I checked when I was 25 I was married had 2 children of my own and was in the combat zone. I don't think you could legitimately call me a child anymore.
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He is absolutely doing the right thing... the democrats tried to spin this as a tax hike on cigarettes, but they failed to tell the whole truth, it will also raise our taxes. Additionally, a great number of those children are illegal immigrants. Haven't you had enough of illegal immigrants being forced upon your taxes for one lame reason or another? I have.
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I'm so glad! If libs really cared about kids, then we wouldn't have legal abortion. Can you name any where in America where kids go without health care? I can't. It's not about kids, it's about hills plan for national health care.
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Bush has had several years to prove that he has our country's best interest at heart. It hasn't happened yet, so I doubt it's gonna happen on his clock. Does he realize he's hurting millions of low-income kids? I seriously doubt he cares.
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I think he doesn't care about low-income children.
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He vetoed it because the dems raised the limits as high as people making 60 to 80K a year can get their children benefits, expanding the program from "poor" kids to almost all kids...that's socialized medicine in the guise of a poor kid program...Bush called them on it...good job!!
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Most are illegals and until we clean up our immigration disaster, I'm behind him all the way. I'm so sick of paying out soooo much in taxes for all those people to rec'v FREE benefits that belong to our LEGAL TAX PAYING citizens!! While I pay full price for my kids health insurance. Its not the perfect answer, but enough's enough already!!
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wasn't the cap limit for this bill an $84,000 annual income? How in the world is that "poor"? For the truly poor kids, yes this is a shame. I could see this being passed for a family's annual income of possibly half of that $84,000. This bill was all about politics though. It was an attempt by some in Congress to pave the road for universal health care. I very much doubt Congress had the kids' best interests at heart. These are the folks who frequently like to pass bills to give themselves a raise, after all.
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Let's look at the "Rest of the Story". Attached to that bill was a proviso expanding coverage to children of illegal immigrants. He had every right to veto that bill. He should continue to as long as the Democrat party continues to play games. They no more want to help the children than Bill Clinton is faithful to his wife.
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Some people read headlines only and think they know the whole story and all the issues. There is already a program for children, it's called SCHIP and every state has it. Bush was willing to raise the program but not with the outlandish price the Democrats put on it. Also they want the get the money buy taxing cigarettes. Now do tell, who is more likely to smoke? Yep, you guess it, THE POOR. Bad bill, good president. This is from your link and IMO states everything. "The Democrats who control Congress, with significant support from Republicans, passed the legislation to add $35 billion over five years to allow an additional 4 million children into the program. It would be funded by raising the federal cigarette tax by 61 cents to $1 per pack. The president argued that the Democratic bill was too costly, took the program too far beyond its original intent of helping the poor, and would entice people now covered in the private sector to switch to government coverage. He has proposed only a $5 billion increase in funding. After Bush's speech, White House counselor Ed Gillespie said the president's offer of more money meant more than the $5 billion extra, but he wasn't specific about how much more."
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Yep - the moron puts ideology over kids health. What a sicko.
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It doesn't surprise me, but I bet if you made it for illegal aliens he'd fall over his own feet to sign it. Any takers?
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For once I agree with the president. Congress is holding our children hostage to play political games for the upcoming election. Hey I would love to have free healthcare but if I truly deserve it making less than say 35,000 a year with 3 kids, why do the neighbors down the street making $80,000 dollars a year with 1 child, driving a new car every year and a 4 bedroom, $750.00 per month mortgage, deserve the same benefit. The truly deserving poor are the ones suffering at the hands of Congress while they bluff and waste taxpayers money. It makes me sick because the American people were so hopeful this Congress would make a difference especially the democrats and I have been siding with the democrats for a long time but this saddens me and makes me deeply ashamed that all of our representatives in Washington have nothing better to do than play party politics. What has happened to We the People.
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Adults know that Bush is going to veto bad legislation no matter what it involves. Just slapping the word "child" on the title of a bad bill may fool democrats, but no one else.
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I think that Bush doesn't have a clue as what it's like to be a working person and raise children. He is saying that he is doing this on principle. The only principles that Bush has is the principle of increasing profits for his fat cat supporters.
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Bush vetoes child health insurance plan: Liberal Translation: Bush hates kids Right thinking translation: This bill was over the top and had no right to be introduced in the first place. But of course, because it has the word 'child' in it, Republicans are callous, uncaring, child murderers who don't care about our nations poor. Why don't we demand the drug dealers in the inner cities to pay for the health care of the crack babies that are born every day before we ask the tax payers to always take on the burden. All they'll have to do is sell one or two of their pimped out Escalades to take care of the kids who's parents they're getting hooked on crack. My mantra: Personal responsibility before taxation!!!
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GOOD! Here in Ohio we have the CHIPP state health program for kids. Those vote-hungry Democrats want to make Bush look evil for saying no to kids. kids that are here illegally. Kids whose parents make $80000 a year. Kids who are 25 yrs old. Ohio has HUNDREDS of kids dropped off rosters because they are always changing eligibility each year. One year they cut 'gap' coverage'. next year, only under $24K a yr family of five was eligible (hey, then would qualify for medicaid, duh!) if a private insuance company behaved like this federal regulators would shut the company down. THIS IS SOCIALIZED MEDICINE IN DISGUISE. years ago, our parents/grandparents did something called "going out on strike' to get companies to pay benefits. Now, companies like Wal-Mart can pay minimal benefits because they know the government will step in and provide their workers health care benefits and food stamps. more profits to the company :)
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Fact Check on Bill to Expand the Child Health Care Program - Minneapolis Star Tribune, Kevin Freking September 26, 2007 Just what would happen under the bill that passed Tuesday in the House to expand the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP), up for a vote later this week in the Senate and then sure to get a veto from President Bush? Here are some of the claims and the corresponding facts: The claim: The proposal would encourage families to substitute public insurance for private insurance. The facts: The Congressional Budget Office projects that about 3.8 million people would become insured as a result of the bill, and about 2 million more would move from private coverage to public coverage. The claim: The proposal would allow coverage of families earning $83,000. The facts: The bill essentially sets an income ceiling of three times the poverty rate for a family of four -- $61,950. Beyond that, the federal government would not pay a state its full SCHIP match, which averages about 70 percent. The claim: The bill would make it easier for children of illegal immigrants to participate in Medicaid. The facts: Currently, states are required to seek proof of U.S. citizenship before they provide Medicaid coverage, except in emergencies. The states now require applicants to show documents such as birth certificates or passports in order to prove U.S. citizenship and nationality. The bill would allow applicants to submit a Social Security number instead. Michael J. Astrue, commissioner for the Social Security Administration, said that matching a Social Security number with an individual does not allow officials to verify whether someone is a U.S. citizen. The claim: The proposed 61 cent tax on a pack of cigarettes is a tax on the poor. The facts: According to a recent analysis by the National Center for Health Statistics, smoking rates are higher for those who live in poverty or near poverty than among wealthier people. Also, a more dated analysis cited by the National Center for Policy Analysis, a conservative think tank, states that two-thirds of federal tobacco taxes come from those earning less than $40,000 a year
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